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Post by Hime on Nov 16, 2007 19:28:37 GMT 7
Here's the explanation. In our Psychology class, we were given a Problem-Based learning thingy. It's called "The Road Less Traveled", and I need your help since I need to do a survey thing. The story was like this:
There was a shipwreck and only two people survived. A Catholic Priest and a beautiful woman (Our prof named her Hot Babe xDDD), both young and vibrant in their mid-twenties. Aaand they're stranded in a virgin island where everything is paradise-like. Now in their stay together in the Island for two consecutive years, they have fallen madly in love with each other. The Priest's dilemma now is that he's stuck in his vows that he would remain single for all his life, and hot babe on the other hand is stuck on the situation to relate with the priest. (Duh, they're the only people there). The question is...what will they do?
As for my task, I'm going to find out what the priest really feels towards Hot Babe and one of the research methods is conducting a survey, so yeah, I need your opinions ;_: PLEASE??? Just vote on what you really think is the answer. there's no right or wrong. You can say your opinions too and I'll be the one to interpret the data. Please and Thank you! ^_^
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Post by Hiei on Nov 16, 2007 19:36:42 GMT 7
I'd say No choice or True love. Physical attraction is a possibility, but I don't think Lust is. Lust is simply something he was taught not to feel.
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Post by Haruhi Otonashi on Nov 16, 2007 19:46:18 GMT 7
I'm guessing they won't do anything. Love can be expressed even without 'making love,' really. So... no choice, I guess? Ugh... crappy answer. Sleep deprivation is really getting to me. >_<
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Post by Hime on Nov 16, 2007 19:48:46 GMT 7
There are actually ways, but it's too complicated to explain in a single post. We have different view points to explain too, which makes it even harder. (Sex Therapist, Social Psychologist, Moral Theologian, Feminist, Liberal, Conservative, etc.) But yeah, I think you get the point. xD
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Post by Shin on Nov 16, 2007 20:02:21 GMT 7
Obviously no question that the Priest would really give up his calling for a more deeper and much more farther calling of God if that what God wants well we have no choice but to go with the Flow.
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Post by = Mune++e on Nov 16, 2007 20:06:34 GMT 7
Can it be..uhmm...he's so in love with her but his devotion to God is more important than her? I don't mean that the woman is not so important to him, but his love and faith for God is stronger than to the 'Hot Babe' xD.
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Post by x A m r i t a . . . on Nov 16, 2007 20:20:32 GMT 7
I know a priest who gave up his priesthood to marry someone. (HOW COULD'CHU FATHER THAI?! T^T)
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Post by xxRyuu²-kun on Nov 16, 2007 20:36:46 GMT 7
---> In my own analization, it depends on what will happen.
-If the priest will give up his priesthood for the girl, then it's true love. [Thinking the fact that he prioritize the girl most that anything and anyone else, including his love for GOD]
-If he chooses to remain in his priesthood, then it's more on the 'no choice'.. You know the genes of men... ^^ hihi -_-
>> that's my opinion.. ^^
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Post by Hime on Nov 16, 2007 23:09:23 GMT 7
YAY~ Thanks guys! *Huggles everyone who answered the survey* It really helped a lot. ^_^
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Post by Shugo Yuy™ on Nov 17, 2007 3:48:06 GMT 7
*cough* Lust >.>
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Post by Hiei on Nov 17, 2007 23:37:33 GMT 7
You're being an asshole again, Shugo.
It's for her project, for crying out loud.
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Post by André on Nov 17, 2007 23:46:01 GMT 7
I didn't vote since you seem to be done. But I wanted to put in my opinion. The question in itself is flawed in my point of view as I don't think priesthood should require celibacy. And I think that is actually something that causes problems. But my theological mindset aside there is one point that sounds out in the question that should answer it quite well.
They stay together in the Island for two consecutive years.
If they can keep a healthy and loving relationship for two years there is no way that it is lust. Being on an island by themselvs also means that there is no need for him to be a celibate. It's not that he's abandoning his priesthood. It's that there is no reason for him to be a priest. He's just another Catholic man. And that means he would ask her to marry him and then he would be a husband. Only problem with that that is if they were ever rescued they would need another legal and church sanctioned marriage.
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Post by Hanako Aiko on Nov 18, 2007 0:03:37 GMT 7
[At Andre] Oh yeah, I'm also Hime. =)
Everything you said was the main Project itself xD. It's kinda confusing, and you're right. The question is kind of flawed, but the prof required me to make a survey on it, so yeah. Explains this whole thread xD
But based on my research, I came to a "theory" or even a conclusion that celibacy is actually needed for priesthood. Celibacy also implies detachment from the material world (including marital bonds and the struggle to bring up your family) that would hinder for giving yourself completely into service in your religion. It's just a matter of prioritizing God over your own feelings and the needs of your family. In the case of a Theologian's point of view on the issue, he will say that the priest should continue being a priest even when they're the only ones in the island. If he won't, he'll be committing a grave sin against God.
Whereas for a Social Psychologist, he will tell him to give in to his feelings (since they really would say that he's in love with Hot Babe) because he can no longer be called a "priest" when the society that "branded" him that social status is already out of the picture.
It's kind of discussed in separate point-of-views. =D I just needed to do this survey for the Social Psychology part of the research.
Sorry for some crappy Psychology stuff >_<;; I'm such a nerd. Ugh. Anyways, thanks for the opinions. I really appreciate it. Aaand I'm not done yet. I'm too lazy to finish it ^_^;;
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Post by Shugo Yuy™ on Nov 18, 2007 0:48:23 GMT 7
You're being an asshole again, Shugo. It's for her project, for crying out loud. I'm serious though! Most guys would be driven by hormones >> So therefore lust >>
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Post by Hiei on Nov 18, 2007 0:56:44 GMT 7
Priests are trained otherwise, Shugo. And there was that two years thing. If he was indeed driven by his hormones, he would have done it already.
Not everyone's you, Shugo. =_=
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Post by Shugo Yuy™ on Nov 18, 2007 1:53:23 GMT 7
Priets are also trained to not love anything or anyone but god =P Not everything's a perfect little fairy tale =P People were put on earth to mate and thats exactly what they'll do =P
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Post by André on Nov 18, 2007 1:57:02 GMT 7
I disagree. I'm fairly cretin priests aren't trained to withstand lust. And most certainly not taught to love nothing or no one but God.
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Post by ┼3|-| <|-|4|2!┼`/ on Nov 18, 2007 2:13:10 GMT 7
Oddly enough.. I agree with Shugo. Oh, he didn’t have sex with her for two years? Yippee for him. He can give himself a nice pat on the back. For those two years he was probably trying to abandon his vows as a priest, and realize that if they indeed wanted to survive as a species they needed to reproduce. And what is that? Lust. Every animal has it. Get over yourselves. Sheesh. They’re stranded on an island, whether she’s hot or not, no one wants to die on an island. You think your priests are all sweet and innocent? Naive. Grow up kids. There might be a bit of love in there, but what other choice does he have? He ain’t gunna love a bloody damn tree.
Oh yeah. And for those two years, maybe they were waiting for rescue? Paridise or not. Again, they would still result to mating. And if you have no connecton with the rest of the world, who's to say that they're not the only ones left, eh?
I take Psychology too. xD Sorry. I usually take the negative side of the debates in class. Just seriously. If you’re alone on an island with a girl, there’s no storybook ending. He could be in love with her, but when it comes down to survival, it's pure lust.
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